Comments on: Butts in seats: Measuring success in ministry is more than a numbers game http://rkweblog.com/2008/10/butts-in-seats-measuring-success-in-ministry.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=butts-in-seats-measuring-success-in-ministry A conversation on faith & culture for creatives, leaders & influencers Fri, 18 May 2012 22:31:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: JB http://rkweblog.com/2008/10/butts-in-seats-measuring-success-in-ministry.html/comment-page-1/#comment-2773 JB Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:56:52 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/?p=1210#comment-2773 Love this post. It smells like a new series with the title "Church Leadership Mythbusters." Love this post. It smells like a new series with the title “Church Leadership Mythbusters.”

]]> By: Rich Kirkpatrick http://rkweblog.com/2008/10/butts-in-seats-measuring-success-in-ministry.html/comment-page-1/#comment-2767 Rich Kirkpatrick Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:13:09 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/?p=1210#comment-2767 Tyler, so you are after the "rich" guy, eh. ;) Percentage, smercentage... I never said being wealthy as a church means being more spiritually mature. Like I said, "Remember the widow's mite." But, to be more clear and since I do not have professional editors, I have decided to change and edit the following: "amount" to the "relative amount" of money given. :) Tyler, so you are after the “rich” guy, eh. ;)

Percentage, smercentage… I never said being wealthy as a church means being more spiritually mature. Like I said, “Remember the widow’s mite.”

But, to be more clear and since I do not have professional editors, I have decided to change and edit the following: “amount” to the “relative amount” of money given.

:)

]]> By: Tyler http://rkweblog.com/2008/10/butts-in-seats-measuring-success-in-ministry.html/comment-page-1/#comment-2764 Tyler Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:12:37 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/?p=1210#comment-2764 I'm going to push back on #2. I think I understand your idea behind this and I have no problem with that. But I don't think spiritual maturity means giving more. There are plenty of immature churches who have loads of money. Sure money is one way we honor God, but we honor God by giving more as a percentage of our money. What is more to me and more to the rich guy at another church is not comparable to our spiritual maturity. I’m going to push back on #2. I think I understand your idea behind this and I have no problem with that.

But I don’t think spiritual maturity means giving more. There are plenty of immature churches who have loads of money. Sure money is one way we honor God, but we honor God by giving more as a percentage of our money. What is more to me and more to the rich guy at another church is not comparable to our spiritual maturity.

]]> By: Rhett Smith http://rkweblog.com/2008/10/butts-in-seats-measuring-success-in-ministry.html/comment-page-1/#comment-2755 Rhett Smith Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:34:01 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/?p=1210#comment-2755 thank you for this post... i have really struggled with being environments where usually the first and only question I got about a college group worship night was, "How many kids were there?" As if that's the only defining factor. rhett thank you for this post…

i have really struggled with being environments where usually the first and only question I got about a college group worship night was, “How many kids were there?” As if that’s the only defining factor.

rhett

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