Comments on: Interview with Rabbi Derek Leman: New Threads study Feast, legalism and using palm branches in worship http://rkweblog.com/2008/10/interview-with-rabbi-derek-leman-new-threads-study-feast-legalism-and-using-palm-branches-in-worship.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=interview-with-rabbi-derek-leman-new-threads-study-feast-legalism-and-using-palm-branches-in-worship A conversation on faith & culture for creatives, leaders & influencers Fri, 18 May 2012 22:31:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Rich Kirkpatrick http://rkweblog.com/2008/10/interview-with-rabbi-derek-leman-new-threads-study-feast-legalism-and-using-palm-branches-in-worship.html/comment-page-1/#comment-2790 Rich Kirkpatrick Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:19:40 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/?p=1236#comment-2790 I follow Jesus Christ, he is my Rabbi and the fulfillment of the Torah and the Prophets. Rich I follow Jesus Christ, he is my Rabbi and the fulfillment of the Torah and the Prophets.

Rich

]]> By: Anders Branderud http://rkweblog.com/2008/10/interview-with-rabbi-derek-leman-new-threads-study-feast-legalism-and-using-palm-branches-in-worship.html/comment-page-1/#comment-2789 Anders Branderud Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:12:48 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/?p=1236#comment-2789 Hello! My name is Anders Branderud and I am from Sweden. You quote: “Gentiles don’t need to start obeying God’s commandments to Jews (Sabbath, restricted diet, circumcision on the 8th day, wearing fringes)” Ribi Yehoshua said: "Don't think that I came to uproot the Torah or the Neviim [prophets], but rather I came to reconcile them with the Oral Law of emet (truth). Should the heavens and ha-aretz (the land, particularly referring to Israel) exchange places, still, not even one ' (yod) nor one ` (qeren) of the Oral Law of Mosheh shall so much as exchange places; until it shall become that it is all being fully ratified and performed non-selectively. For whoever deletes one Oral Law from the Torah, or shall teach others such, by those in the Realm of the heavens he shall be called "deleted." Both he who preserves and he who teaches them shall be called Ribi in the Realm of the heavens. For I tell you that unless your Tzedaqah (righteousness) is over and above that of the Sophrim (Torah Scribes), and of the [probably 'Herodian'] Rabbinic-Perushim (corrupted to "Pharisees"), there is no way you will enter into the Realm of the heavens! “ Netzarim Reconstruction of Hebrew Matityahu 5:17-20. and “Take heed against false Neviim [Prophets] who come to you in wool like sheep, but inside they are wolves who extort. You shall recognize them by their works. Do men pick grapes from a stinging-nettle? Or figs from a thistle? So, every green tree is unable to produce evil fruit, and a dried-up tree is unable to produce good fruit."” Ribi Yehoshua warned for false prophets who don’t produce good fruit = defined as don’t practise the commandments in Torah according to Halakhah (oral Torah). Torah warns for people who says that one shouldn’t practise the mitzwot (commandments) (which includes the specific laws for what to eat and to wear tzitzit) in Torah. See Devarim (Deuteronomy) 13:1-6. Now you are confronted with the very words of historical Ribi Yehoshua [in the above quotes]. You can’t rebel and reject the very words he claims to follow. If you don’t follow Ribi Yehoshuas Torah-teachings, then you don’t follow Ribi Yehoshua. So why not start following Ribi Yehoshua by practising Torah including Halakhah non-selectively? To follow him by practising the commandments in Torah including helping the needy gives true meaning of life!! From Anders Branderud Geir Toshav, Netzarim in Ra’anana in Israel (www.netzarim.co.il) who are followers of Ribi Yehoshua – the Messiah – in Orthodox Judaism Hello! My name is Anders Branderud and I am from Sweden.

You quote: “Gentiles don’t need to start obeying God’s commandments to Jews (Sabbath, restricted diet, circumcision on the 8th day, wearing fringes)”

Ribi Yehoshua said:

“Don’t think that I came to uproot the Torah or the Neviim [prophets], but rather I came to reconcile them with the Oral Law of emet (truth). Should the heavens and ha-aretz (the land, particularly referring to Israel) exchange places, still, not even one ‘ (yod) nor one ` (qeren) of the Oral Law of Mosheh shall so much as exchange places; until it shall become that it is all being fully ratified and performed non-selectively. For whoever deletes one Oral Law from the Torah, or shall teach others such, by those in the Realm of the heavens he shall be called “deleted.” Both he who preserves and he who teaches them shall be called Ribi in the Realm of the heavens. For I tell you that unless your Tzedaqah (righteousness) is over and above that of the Sophrim (Torah Scribes), and of the [probably 'Herodian'] Rabbinic-Perushim (corrupted to “Pharisees”), there is no way you will enter into the Realm of the heavens! “
Netzarim Reconstruction of Hebrew Matityahu 5:17-20.

and

“Take heed against false Neviim [Prophets] who come to you in wool like sheep, but inside they are wolves who extort. You shall recognize them by their works. Do men pick grapes from a stinging-nettle? Or figs from a thistle? So, every green tree is unable to produce evil fruit, and a dried-up tree is unable to produce good fruit.””

Ribi Yehoshua warned for false prophets who don’t produce good fruit = defined as don’t practise the commandments in Torah according to Halakhah (oral Torah). Torah warns for people who says that one shouldn’t practise the mitzwot (commandments) (which includes the specific laws for what to eat and to wear tzitzit) in Torah. See Devarim (Deuteronomy) 13:1-6.

Now you are confronted with the very words of historical Ribi Yehoshua [in the above quotes]. You can’t rebel and reject the very words he claims to follow. If you don’t follow Ribi Yehoshuas Torah-teachings, then you don’t follow Ribi Yehoshua.

So why not start following Ribi Yehoshua by practising Torah including Halakhah non-selectively? To follow him by practising the commandments in Torah including helping the needy gives true meaning of life!!

From Anders Branderud
Geir Toshav, Netzarim in Ra’anana in Israel (www.netzarim.co.il) who are followers of Ribi Yehoshua – the Messiah – in Orthodox Judaism

]]> By: andira http://rkweblog.com/2008/10/interview-with-rabbi-derek-leman-new-threads-study-feast-legalism-and-using-palm-branches-in-worship.html/comment-page-1/#comment-2787 andira Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:21:20 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/?p=1236#comment-2787 This was really helpful! Thank you so much for posting! This was really helpful! Thank you so much for posting!

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