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10 MORE statements that will help you FAIL as a Christian

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Last time I did a list like this we had a good conversation, so I have been pondering other statements that make us fail as Christians. Here is a stab at an additional 10.

  1. I cannot possibly change for real.
  2. I do not need the church (or “Church”) to worship or live my life.
  3. Jesus did not mean all the hard stuff he said, it was just “figurative” right?
  4. Being “relevant” is the mission of the local church.
  5. Drinking alcohol is a sin since the Bible teaches that.
  6. If this feel so right then it can’t really be wrong–even if the Bible teaches otherwise.
  7. Walking in the Spirit means working on not sinning.
  8. I “go” to church.
  9. God really is always loving, so all that anger stuff in the Old Testament is “figurative” since God would never do a flood, wipe a race of people away or kill people out of anger.
  10. Our body is not that important in our spiritual life.

Now, let me know if you agree with these or not and why. Can you see scriptures that refute these FAIL statements?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=735898409 Ben Saada

    Nice posts Rich. I’m reading “Me to We” and am getting slammed on completely rethinking my pastor role along with how to shape and change the minds of Christians. It’s amazing how we can so easily be blinded to our own “religious” thoughts believing them to be scriptural.

    • http://richkirkpatrick.com Rich Kirkpatrick

      THANKS… sounds like a good book, Ben

  • http://iamlivingproof.org/ Joseph Louthan

    Statement 1 will literally kill you.

    At 15 years old, I believe that lust is something I have to deal with. That led into a life working in pornography.

    God changes hearts.

    • http://richkirkpatrick.com Rich Kirkpatrick

      New life! Jesus came to give us life.

  • http://catalystspace.com Jesse Phillips

    AWESOME LIST! AWEsome list. awesome. awesome!

    I especially like #8 “I ‘go’ to church” – the Church is not a place you go to, it’s something you’re a part of.

    And of course the drinking thing is one of the more challenging ones on this list. I agree w/ you absolutely. That and smoking. And I’d even say cussing, but that’s hard to defend.

    One thing, can you explain 2 in light of 8? They appear to contradict each other only somewhat.

    • http://richkirkpatrick.com Rich Kirkpatrick

      #2 is for those that in Hebrews forsake the assembly and excuse it because of various reasons…today the new one is that we can just do it on our own

      #8 is for those who go to church rather than see church as their family…

      two different people, unless they say they do not need church while attending?

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  • Terri DeGarlais

    Can you break down or give me scripture reference for #5? I shared this on my facebook and have had several quick replys concerning that and #1. I can get on a soap box about #1 for sure but not sure how to dialog about #5.
    Thanks so much for sharing this! Anyting to help me create a dialog with my skeptic friends is a blessing!

    • http://richkirkpatrick.com Rich Kirkpatrick

      #5 The point is that there is NO biblical prohibition against drinking alcohol. Period. You will not find it. We have to use judgment with even food since too many Christians are FAT and do not care for their bodies. This does not make food a tool of sin since it could lead to gluttony. No. Wine or other things that lead to the sin of being drunk (Ephesians 5:18) does not make alcohol a sin and the Bible does not says otherwise. Being DRUNK leads to more sin, NOT drinking wine. People do not parse this verse correctly and try to force it to say what it is not saying.

      Legalism is when we lower Gods standard to our level (such as might lead to) and make rules or law that God does not make. This is what is under the FAIL—legalism kills our walk by giving us a false sense of righteousness. This is the nut of #5

      #1?? Romans 12:1-2 is the classic example of holistic life change! We present our bodies, our mind is renewed and we are CHANGED. It is a heresy of practical theology to deny that God has given us the choice, power and opportunity to become more and more like Jesus by the gift of new life we have that was purchased on the cross.

  • http://www.hjertevask.org Håkon

    “10 MORE statements that will help you FAIL as a Christian”
    These are ten good rules that serve the purpose, but I am afraid I will never be able to keep them. Or, I am confident that I have again and again failed, trying to keep them. If this continues, I am rock bottom sure that I am forever doomed – to go to Heaven. In short, I believe the whole Bible, with Jesus Christ as the cornerstone that was thrown away. We, today, however, need to look for principles, not peculiarities, when reading the Bible.
    There are sane translations, like The Message by E. Peterson.
    Then there are others, like “The Evidence Bible”, condoned by jailed preacher Mr. Kent Hovind. Did he miss something, something about paying taxes, maybe? Or are we more concerned about being dino doctors?

    • http://richkirkpatrick.com Rich Kirkpatrick

      “The Message” is really peculiar in that it is one man’s writings, albeit useful. I would suggest something done by a committee like the NIV of ESV, etc. for real study of the Bible.

      My list, by the way, is not a list of rules. These are statements that I believe are not biblical yet held by many still to be true enough to live by. If what I am suggesting is true, then you are bound to have some failure in your walk with Christ by upholding them!

  • http://www.shaggyworshiper.com Dustin

    This post reminds me of what Francis Chan talks about in his book, Crazy Love. Little statements and walls we put up that make us feel we have “enough” God.

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